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And then the fans flip their shit by IloveHersheysSoMuch And then the fans flip their shit by IloveHersheysSoMuch
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The fandom is gonna hate me for this.

Lol, what the fahk is the Big Four?
If you're familiar with the Disney fandom, specifically the Disney crossover fandom, the Big Four is a common crossover. It's a shipping square consisting of Rapunzel from Disney's Tangled, Jack Frost from Dreamwork's Rise of the Guardians, Hiccup from Dreamwork's How To Train Your Dragon, aaand Merida from Pixar and Disney's Brave. The most common ships in there are Jack/Rapunzel and Merida/Hiccup. I don't hate all of the pairing combinations to rabid, raging death though, I DISLIKE them, I find them boring and I never really gave a shit.
The(well, most) fans act like the crossover is the best thing since sliced bread and--in the eyes of the rabid fans--that haters are enemies that must be converted whether they like it or not.
I am not kidding you; the bad fans can get outright vicious when someone doesn't like the Big Four. Some even try to antagonize the character's canon love interests(Flynn Rider/Eugene Fitzherbert, Tooth Fairy, Astrid, that's pretty much it) or kill them off because apparently they "get een da wei!!1!" or "dey r too ugly 4 dem!!11!!"
They also love to shit on everyone else's crossover ideas("that crossover sucks" "It'll never work", and so on) while they hail the Big Four as the greatest crossover that ever appeared on the face of the Earth. They won't accept any other chracters into the group because they are just that protective of their precious otps.

So there, that's what I gotta say. All I gotta say is...prepare you armor, weapons, anus, and shields, people. A shitstorm's a'comin.

EDIT 7/15/13: Apparently they're assuming Anna and Elsa from Frozen are Jack and Rapunzel's kids. :iconfacepalmplz: And now they're making shitty manips of the girls swooning over older Hiccup from the HTTYD 2 trailer. Wow...nothing similar to any of the films is safe from them, hm?

EDIT 9/3/13: ALRIGHT FUCKERS, this stamp is not ment to bully or harass the fans! Nor am I trying to tear down the fandom! I am stating my opinion on this, and if you can't handle it, GTFO please.
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:icontultsi93:
tultsi93 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Yay, The Secret Trio for4!
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tultsi93 Featured By Owner May 12, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
I meant 4ever. Sorry ^^
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BreathingBananas Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hate that Jelsa became fucking everything... 
I love Jack Frost...
He doesn't need to be paired with shitty characters. I can't even search his NAME without Elsa showing her dumbass in it.
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Animefan186 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
big four i never heard of it
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marxkirby66 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
Same
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EveLeech Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2015
I also dislike the Big Four too.
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AngryBirds514 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I'd rather see other crossovers than the Big 4.
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HectorNY Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2015  Hobbyist
When I saw this, I thought you were referring to The Big Four of Heavy Metal Rock which are Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer. Now this Big 4, I know nothing about.
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Gh0stParade Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Student Filmographer
I LOVE YOU :D 
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FrozenHeartWarrior Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you for making this. You are a true hero.
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mysteriouskey Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know how the big four started. Disney and DreamWorks hate each other's guts! (it means they are rivals) and people put them together? I will be in my disappointment corner...
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marxkirby66 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
Ikr the irony ⊙﹏⊙
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crazyforchocobos Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2015
And another thing about the The Big Four fandom that really makes me go "ARRRGGGGHHHHH" is when they start claiming that Human!Jack and Hiccup lived IN THE SAME ERA.  That one made me head desk.

Even if they did all live in the same universe, Hiccup would predate the rest by almost 1000 years based on the eras their worlds are based on.


The seasonal spirit Big Four I'm kinda neutral towards I found a few one shots I liked, but the shipping just makes me turn tail and run and those cut, copy and paste screen shot comics, to make long story short, go RIGHT to the uncanny valley.
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jayjay4750 Featured By Owner Edited Jan 21, 2015
I'm in the fandom (I write fanfiction), but the thing I really, really, REALLY hate about this fandom is the shipping. I like to think of them as just a simple team, and nothing more than that. No 'EARMAHGURD JACKUNZEL/JELSA'. Don't get me wrong, there are some people in the fanbase who are great, but first people have to get past the annoying shippers who have to antagonize literally EVERYONE just so they can live in their own world with their OTP, and people don't want to go through all that. It's why after about seven months of being in the fandom, which is the worst time to join because HtTYD 2 just came out, my brain is fried from all the incoming deviantWATCH messages of Jelsa/Jackunzel/Jarida/Hijack/Hiccunzel/Mericcup/Hiccelsa, and I consider myself lucky that I've got better things in my deviantWATCH that cover up all the ships. I like the characters involved, and I like the combination, but the fanbase is just terrible. I don't even want to get started with all the theories on how 'Jack can be Elsa's father' and blah, blah, blah. Just....no. If at least half the fandom could just grow up, respect what's canon, and respect other peoples' opinions, then maybe I'll actually be able to stand being a member of the fandom. You explained this perfectly.
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TheToughGreenGirl Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i dont really understand how it started...

i liked tangled, brave and rotg (httyd was meh, htyd 2 was better) i like the idea of them becoming season guardians (since jack is the spirit of winter), thats why i entered in the fandoms not because of shipping

plus i only ship jarida, hiccstrid, eugunzel (in the big four)
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MonstrousPegasister Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Here's my opinions on all four movies:
RotG was great, and Bunny is a better character than Jack Frost BY FAR.
Merida's character was so frustrating, she's the reason why I didn't finish Brave.
Tangled was... meh.
HtTYD was a TOTAL SNOOZEFEST.
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ArtLover0357 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
lol, the title XD
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HoneyBeeGirl94 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2014
People turn Tooth, Eugene and Astrid into bad guys and kill them off? What is wrong with this fandom? 
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PeachDaisyRosalina01 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014
I can't believe there are people who actually think Jack Frost and Rapunzel are the parents of Anna and Elsa... Their parents are in the movie. And it's obvious that the king and queen of Arendelle are Anna and Elsa's parents, because the queen looks almost exactly like Elsa. She's basically Elsa with dark hair. It's obvious they're related.
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Kaizellea Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015
I applaud this comment. It freaking kills me when people think Jack Frost and Rapunzel are the parents of Elsa and Anna.
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PeachDaisyRosalina01 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015
Thanks :D I know right? :O
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FlyingFreedom13 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Student Artist
About time! I totally agree with you. People are becoming rabid fans of this crossover, now it involves poor Anna and Elsa, being shipped off with people from different universes. I'm going to say this statement and give me all your shit as you want, RotBTD fans, cause I'll give you shit right back: IF IT'S NOT CANON, DON'T SHIP IT!!! I'm only okay with Jack being shipped with ocs/Tooth, Elsa being shipped with ocs, not Hans, Kristoff, Jack, or whoever. Anna has Kristoff, Runzie is MARRIED to Eugene, Merida made it clear she wasn't ready for marriage, and Hiccup is obviously dating Astrid. ANNA AND ELSA ARE NOT, I REPEAT: NOT, JACK AND PUNZIE'S KIDS, ANNA AND ELSA HAVE PARENTS YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE DEAD, BUT THEY STILL HAVE PARENTS!!!
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SmoothCriminalGirl16 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
Yay, Jack/OC which I like the most! Anna squee 
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FlyingFreedom13 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Student Artist
*high five* Jack/OC fans forever!!!:ladummyhighfive: 
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SmoothCriminalGirl16 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
Yeah! :D (Big Grin) High Fave 
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moosedragon66 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
im a fan ,I don't want them in a movie though. I just like the characters and I like drawing them together and stuff......its just my opinion I respect the opinion you have :)
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NoseBleedingGirl Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The big four? Never heard of it...
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Violetdaisy84 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How did The Big Four begin in the first place?  I can understand other crossover groups such as Mystery Kids (a crossover between Gravity Falls, Paranorman, Coraline, and Psychonauts) since the characters from each of those franchises often get mixed up in paranormal situations but this one I just don't understand.  

And  as for people thinking that Elsa and Anna are Jack and Rapunzel's kids.  .  .  uh, wtf?  This theory could be easily debunked.
1.  You see Elsa and Anna's parents in the beginning of the movie.
2.  Rapunzel's married to Eugene.  
3.  Rapunzel takes place in 19th century Germany, Frozen takes place in 19th century Norway, and Rise Of The Guardians takes place in modern times (well, technically, Jack was around for 300 years, meaning that he was born around the 1700's; a hundred years before Rapunzel or Elsa and Anna were born).
4.  Rapunzel's the product of Disney and Jack's the product of Dreamworks.  Last time I checked, those two companies were rivals.  
5.  If they're saying this because both Jack and Elsa have ice powers, all I can say is this-Jack's powers can only be used through his staff and Elsa just needs her hands. 
5.  Rapunzel and Eugene made cameos in Frozen.  Rapunzel is 18 and Elsa is 21.  Rapunzel doesn't look that much older, so I'm going to assume that she's the same age as she was in Tangled.  If she was the parents of Elsa and Anna, that would mean she gave birth to Elsa (since she's older than Anna by four years) at the age of 4.

Don't get me wrong, I like headcanons, but this one is just silly.  
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FlyingFreedom13 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Student Artist
You're right. You are totally right: DreamWorks and Disney are rivals, it is not possible in this modern world that those companies will make a RotBTD movie.
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Eternities22 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ERMAGHERD HOW DAR U HAET MA SHIPPINGZ U ROOINED MY LYFE IMMA CUT MAHSELF NOW COZ I CANT GROW UP!!!!!!111!!!11
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Eternities22 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Roth1000 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014
I respect your opinion.
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MegzWills Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Student General Artist
THANK YOU
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elsaiscool Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
I agree everyone has their own opinion.
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CunningChicken Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
TOTAL AGREEMENT. It just wouldn't work, no matter how hard the fans try to twist, warp and manipulate Jack, Rapunzel, Merida and Hiccup's personalities!
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Celestial-Rainstorm Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Professional General Artist
Oh my lord, there it is. You just said the absolute truth. Fans are warping these characters to be so in love with one another and completely disrespect the director's visionary, gorgeous movie - three out of four of these characters have love interests, and one refuses to take one! 
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CunningChicken Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes. I mean, I'm not againt all shipping that isn't canon, but there are some things that just wouldn't work.


(I may or may not maybe kind of ship Fishlegs and Camicazi though idk why I mean Hicami makes more sense but...)
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Celestial-Rainstorm Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Professional General Artist
Indeed. (And that would be a cute ship. Personally, I enjoy the movies more than the books). 
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CunningChicken Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I've only seen the first movie... is the second movie good?
Also, I enjoy the books more (seeing as I might have maybe read the books many more times than a normal amount). Haha I guess I'm just that kind of person.
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Celestial-Rainstorm Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Professional General Artist
Insanely so. 
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CunningChicken Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I can't figure out which part of my comment you're replying to
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DeceitfulOutcast Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks so much for this! I really don't like the Big Four. The fans are mean ;n; Plus, I don't really understand shipping two people from different franchises. Not trying to be mean btw ^^;
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Celestial-Rainstorm Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014  Professional General Artist
OH GOD THANK YOU! I fucking hate this crossover shit. It annoys the hell out of me. Why can't fangirls just let characters be characters? They're trying like hell to pair Jack with Elsa and Hiccup with Merida and all sorts of bullshit like that. It just doesn't make sense to me. 
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IDreamOfTheWind Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!
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dancingwaterlily Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I can tolerate "the big four" (which really are North,Bunny,Sandy & Tooth) to an extent of time, ……until we get to the shippings -.-  i mean the idea of the group as friends seems pretty fun and so on but plz to pair everyone of these characters with each other, really? To me it seems even more unrealistic since each of these characters in "the big four" aka  RotBTD, already have a significant other (well except for jack, in my opinion but maybe cause I'm a jelsa fan xD and Merida ofc) I mean in Tangled Rapunzel falls in love with Flynn/Eugene and live happily ever after, in How to train your dragon Hiccup is in love with Astrid whom also falls in love with him and they also live happily ever after. Then we have Brave, Merida clearly proves that she doesn't need a man in her life (at the time) and she has her family whom love her dearly AND Merida and her mother do get better connection throughout the movie, so that´s enough for the moment right? i mean i believe Brave was meant to show that you can be independent without a man but still depend on your family no matter what (at least that´s my view from the movie). And so we come to The rise of the guardians where there´s a hundreds of shippings which i really don't understand since it really doesn't makes any sense to me at all. For me Jack seems like a free spirited winter guardian whom loves his freedom and just wants to have fun, dont you think a relationship would be a tiny winy little bit too much responsibility for him? Since jack IS the spirit/guardian who´s center is FUN the idea of a love connection with someone with all the responsibility, drama, hurt and all it´s upside downs would take a tool on that center right? Then we have his past which i think brings him down in several cases, i mean he died at a young age, lost his family and now he has to wander the earth without someone not noticing him (the unbelievers of jack frost)  that fact alone must be hard to face. Then again i do believe that Jack needs someone to be with, but with someone that understands him enough to wanna go through it all together, this quality whoever i don't see in any of the characters IN the movie or in the characters of RotBTD since they all either is free-spirited, already  in love with someone or simply to independent to need anyone but themselves. So to get to my point i don't hate The big four aka RotBTD but i don't like it either. Mainly because of the shippings.
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Darkdarkar Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
If they were all just friends I would be fine, but fandoms have a problem of equating friendship with romance. 
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awesomestarz Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I support them. But only as friends.
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JackxElsa Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't like the Big Four either. I mean COME ON! I'm glad people have their own creative to think this up, but it just gets really annoying whenever I see it. Maybe it is because I'm a Jelsa and Hicsh shipper...but I still don't like it. It gets me annoyed when they make the big four my little ponies and HOGWARTS man does that Hogwarts thing get annoying!!!!!!! I mean I also really hate the couples. JackxRapunzel JackxMerida, and JackxHiccup, RapunzelxMerida, HiccupxMerida, and HiccupxRapunzel. 


For one the whole idea is freaking stupid it doesn't make any deal to me and it is not adventurous and surprising. Sometimes they add other people from other movies which I don't f**king get. 

And the name The Bug Four that just gets me so f**king pissed off. THE BIG FOUR IS NORTH, TOOTH, BUNNY, AND SANDY! Not these four and that annoys that hell outta me and I'm serious. 

Like I said before as well the couples. Hiccup and Rapunzel is just freakin stupid it it BORING! Hiccup is smart, scrawny, shy, intelligent, and HANDSOME Rapunzel is a brat, bubbly, loud, and weird. I hate that couple. I REALLY hate Merida and Hiccup as well it is too stupid and BORING! Merida is whinny, a brat, and crazy always showing off and as I said before Hiccup is well Hiccup. Then there is Jack and Hiccup THEY ARE NOT GAY! I don't know why the hell people think these two are gay and I have no words on how f**king retarded that COUPLE is

Then it is off two Jack and Merida...when I found that out I screamed my head off and got REALLY pissed...that is also really stupid and BORING they don't make a couple and they are just too gross and mean to be a couple and wasn't Merida suppose to show that she doesn't need a man? Than the couple that made me want to b**ch slap Punzie. JACK AND RAPUNZEL. MY god that makes no deal! Rapunzel and Jack made no couple and they look to uncomfortable I can just imagine Punzie drooling over Jack and him being weird out. 

Also there jobs are like The Guardians to fight and protect people! Gee didn't the fans who made that up r brilliant...

Along with the thing how people make them in other movies. I see a BUNCH of 'The Big 4' Hogwarts and I'm like what the hell..I don't know who came up with this OR EVEN WHY but it is just f**king stupid and annoying and Punzie being a RAVENCLAW? No...also the My Little Pony I have no words of how retarded that is..

And my two biggest problems....the girls. I'm sorry! I really am I just don't like Merida and Rapunzel and here's why: 

Merida is a whinny princess who just wants and doesn't like the things see has I know she wants to see the world, but she is such a little brat!! I hate her and when they show her always carrying and arrow and always looking like a badass she's not she is a crying little baby princess. When I first saw her and her design I'm like: " This is NOT a princess and she looks like s**t and will probably act like it too. 

Rapunzel is a little brat who always and I mean always gets on my nervs were it goes to the point were I am about to explode. She is just WAY to jumpy, never takes anything seriously, bubbly, a brat, stupid, annoying- I can go on and on about how stupid and retarded this little b**ch is but it will take forever, 

So yea I'm with u I don't like RotBTD either and I'm really sorry for my words!!!
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xZeShyVikingx Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I love you, man. :tighthug: I agree 100%!
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